ich finds ja prinzipiell gut, wenn man für gute leistung (sprich: workshop leiten) auch geld verdient aber ich muss gestehen dass ich bei 100 Euro für einen workshop GERADE im METALAB stutzig geworden bin. zudem dass das ausgerechnet im female schwerpunkt passiert - (aber dann eh nur zwei teilnehmerinnenn "dürfen") ist das eine "vermietung"? oder check ich bloss was nicht? jetzt frag ich mal nach incl. my 2cents esel Anfang der weitergeleiteten E-Mail:
Von: "hezekinapollutina@gmail.com" <hezekinapollutina@gmail.com> Datum: 09. September 2009 11:31:18 MESZ An: esel@esel.at Betreff: Sept 26/27 - Ableton Live Beginners Weekend Workshop For Women Antwort an: hezekinapollutina@gmail.com
Ableton Live Beginners Weekend Workshop For Women by G.rizo
Saturday and Sunday, September 26 & 27, 2009 Metalab, Rathausstrasse 6, 1010 Wien
Price: 100 Euros (for Weekend) Time: 13 - 20hr Reservation: hezekinapollutina@gmail.com Instructor: G.rizo (Intl. DJ Gigolo Records) **This workshop is taught in English
Full Information and updates available at G.rizo Myspace Blog: http://www.myspace.com/gdotrizo http://www.ableton.com http://www.metalab.at/
Listen: Songs by recent Participants:
“Great” by Valerie Tiefenbacher http://soundcloud.com/hezekinapollutina/ableton-live-workshop_great-by-valer...
“Songstarr”by Julia Novacek http://soundcloud.com/hezekinapollutina/ableton-workshop_songstarr-by-julia-... -------
Hezekina Pollutina presents an Ableton Live Beginners Weekend Workshop For Women on Saturday and Sunday, September 26-27. Instructed G.rizo, the workshop will take place at METALAB, Rauthausstrasse 6, in Vienna. Due to limited space, people who are interested in reserving a spot are advised to RSVP via email to: hezekinapollutina@gmail.com
This 2-day weekend workshop is geared towards "absolute beginners," providing an overview of Ableton Live--the ultimate tool for "do- it-yourself" music production. Aimed at people who are interested in working with electronic sound for diverse purposes, this course will explore all the basic elements of using Ableton Live, from recording to production to live performance. Instructed by Ihu Anyanwu, who makes her own noise as electro artist G.rizo (Int. DJ Gigolo Records), these ladies can expect to be banging out their own imaginative tracks by the end of the weekend!
Why is it only for Women? Says G.rizo, "As a beginners course, its not so much about excluding guys, rather than it being about pulling up the ladies in a field dominated by men. By offering a relaxed and all female learning setting, I am hoping that more ladies feel encouraged to learn and gain confidence as producers."
Divided into 2 days (each 7 hours long), the workshop includes demonstrations, practice exercises, and original song production. Day 1 is a beginners tour of Ableton Live--participants learn about Ableton's interface, tools and unique terminology. Diving right in they explore the software by working on tracks using pre-existing loops and the built-in midi instruments.
Day 2 gets more into details about music production--including learning about audio effects, automation and mixing. There are also tips for sound design, production planning and file management.
Special Offer: Participants in this Workshop Weekend will receive a 14 day licensed version of Ableton Live 8, with full functionality so its possible to save files and export songs. Also participants will receive 50E off the purchase of Ableton Live software in the Ableton.com Webshop.
Requirements for Participation: - Laptop with mobile Internet connectivity e.g. via Airport and/or other Wifi possibility (required) - Ableton Live Software (Free 14 day license available to participants) - Headphones - Fee
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On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 12:03:54 +0200, eSeL <esel@esel.at> wrote:
ich finds ja prinzipiell gut, wenn man für gute leistung (sprich: workshop leiten) auch geld verdient aber ich muss gestehen dass ich bei 100 Euro für einen workshop GERADE im METALAB stutzig geworden bin.
zudem dass das ausgerechnet im female schwerpunkt passiert - (aber dann eh nur zwei teilnehmerinnenn "dürfen")
ist das eine "vermietung"? oder check ich bloss was nicht?
jetzt frag ich mal nach incl. my 2cents
esel
lieber esel, ja es findet im metalab ein workshop exklusiv für frauen statt und das auch noch für teuer geld. es gab intern SEHR viel diskussion ob man das zulässt und wenn ja wie und die ganzen diskussionen rundherum von wegen ausgrenzung, kommerzialisierung, genderbenderei und so weiter erspare ich uns an dieser stelle. alle die auf der internen liste sind und die jour fixe besuchen wissen was da an noise verursacht wurde. OB es solche workshops auch in zukunft geben kann wird sich zeigen. dieser eine workshop wird jedenfalls stattfinden. liebe grüße flo
ja es findet im metalab ein workshop exklusiv für frauen statt und das
this .. i personally find, very disappointing. it is completely counter to the ideals of an open culture that i had thought was a fundamental principle of the metalab experiment. there ought to be a rule: no closed meetings @ metalab. truly. ; -- Jay Vaughan
Gnah! There was an discussion on the core list about the gender-aspect, there was a discussion on the intern-list(in february) about the commercial aspect and there was a discussion in RL about both aspects(money, gender) at the last jour fix. We are generally NOT willing to host commercial events at the metalab - inquiries, which reached us only every half year so far, will be decided case by case(As decided at the last Jour-Fix). NO, the space is not for rent and the donation we receive for this workshop merely covers the cost of operation(And everyone would be happier if it was a free-of-charge workshop, but alas, a communication mistake was made and i(personally) agreed on the workshop before i knew it was not free and before there was said internal "case-by-case" discussion. The gender-topic is another story however.). This is haunting me since a month now and i'd be very glad if i don't have to fight yet another discussion - it's been decided, i've publically explained the reasons for the decision - so have mercy and let it rest. Please. Thanks. Regards Benko
ACK. did not know. - and glad you went through the discussion. (and already got informed by overflow) consider it "external" feedback
:e)
Am 11.09.2009 um 13:42 schrieb Christian Benke:
Gnah! There was an discussion on the core list about the gender-aspect, there was a discussion on the intern-list(in february) about the commercial aspect and there was a discussion in RL about both aspects(money, gender) at the last jour fix.
We are generally NOT willing to host commercial events at the metalab - inquiries, which reached us only every half year so far, will be decided case by case(As decided at the last Jour-Fix).
NO, the space is not for rent and the donation we receive for this workshop merely covers the cost of operation(And everyone would be happier if it was a free-of-charge workshop, but alas, a communication mistake was made and i(personally) agreed on the workshop before i knew it was not free and before there was said internal "case-by-case" discussion. The gender-topic is another story however.).
This is haunting me since a month now and i'd be very glad if i don't have to fight yet another discussion - it's been decided, i've publically explained the reasons for the decision - so have mercy and let it rest. Please. Thanks.
Regards Benko
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