Tl;DR: Please come, it's important :/ Hi. I would like to do one or more Wiki Gardening sessions/hackathon, to clean things up a little, translate important pages (Sergii and I imported and adapted a translation template), etc. I will create an event for Monday, 21st, so we can meet and improve stuff. Of course you are welcome to attend remotely or even take a look at stuff right now. Would be cool if somebody/everybody with moderator privileges could attend too. Cheers, Thomas
On 14.01.2013 15:31, Thomas Steinbrenner wrote:
Tl;DR: Please come, it's important :/
Hi.
I would like to do one or more Wiki Gardening sessions/hackathon, to clean things up a little, translate important pages (Sergii and I imported and adapted a translation template), etc.
I will create an event for Monday, 21st, so we can meet and improve stuff. Of course you are welcome to attend remotely or even take a look at stuff right now.
Would be cool if somebody/everybody with moderator privileges could attend too.
Cheers, Thomas
yea, bin dabei.. und zwar sowas von.
On 01/14/2013 03:31 PM, Thomas Steinbrenner wrote:
Tl;DR: Please come, it's important :/
hi, if you have access to the server it would be coolto add some anti-spam things to user-registration. raumzeitlabor.de/wiki fE asks: "wenn es 20 nach 5 nachmittags ist.. was zeigt dir deine digitaluhr an ?" makes sense.. should i open a ticket for this? :* -flo
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 05:28:34PM +0100, overflo wrote:
hi,
if you have access to the server it would be coolto add some anti-spam things to user-registration.
As far as we (msch and I) can tell, there has already been a captcha in place since at least mid november. Doesn't seem to do much. Got ideas? hop -- What should you do to a blue elephant? Cheer it up.
As far as we (msch and I) can tell, there has already been a captcha in place since at least mid november. Doesn't seem to do much. Got ideas? hop captchas are automatically cracked these days.. i'd suggest to implement the raumzeitlabor time thing or something similar that needs a certain understanding of the language + human skills to figure it out.. i saw a kitten captcha once.. there were 20 kittens and one puppy.. you click the puppy you get in.. something like this.. :* -flo
Kittenauth is what you are looking for: Homepage of the original author (not updated since 2006 or 2007): https://thepcspy.com/archives/tag=kittenauth/ Kittenauth Plugin for mediawiki: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:KittenAuth Greetings, MiKa On 13/01/14/ 17:44, overflo wrote:
As far as we (msch and I) can tell, there has already been a captcha in place since at least mid november. Doesn't seem to do much. Got ideas? hop
captchas are automatically cracked these days.. i'd suggest to implement the raumzeitlabor time thing or something similar that needs a certain understanding of the language + human skills to figure it out.. i saw a kitten captcha once.. there were 20 kittens and one puppy.. you click the puppy you get in.. something like this..
:* -flo
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On 2013-01-14 17:44:43 +0100, overflo wrote:
captchas are automatically cracked these days.. i'd suggest to implement the raumzeitlabor time thing or something similar that needs a certain understanding of the language + human skills to figure it out.. i saw a kitten captcha once.. there were 20 kittens and one puppy.. you click the puppy you get in.. something like this..
The problem with kittenauth and similar captchas is that there are usually too few combinations: If you have to click on the right image out of 21, you have a 5 % chance even if you are guessing blindly. And if you guess wrong, you have another 5 % chance at the next try. A human might become bored or annoyed before getting in, but bots are patient. If there are enough combinations to make it hard for bots, it becomes hard for humans, too. hp -- _ | Peter J. Holzer | Der eigene Verstand bleibt gefühlt messer- |_|_) | Sysadmin WSR | scharf. Aber die restliche Welt blickt's | | | hjp@hjp.at | immer weniger. __/ | http://www.hjp.at/ | -- Matthias Kohrs in desd
If there are enough combinations to make it hard for bots, it becomes hard for humans, too. hp
you are right there. i asked at raumzeitlabor where they got their cool time captcha from but got no reply yet.. lets see.. :* -flo -- Wenn man als junger Mensch aussah wie ein Hippie und sich einigermaßen treu geblieben ist, sieht man als alter Sack halt aus wie ein Penner und nicht wie Joschka Fischer. -- Harry Rowohlt
On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 00:03:32 +0100 overflo wrote:
If there are enough combinations to make it hard for bots, it becomes hard for humans, too. hp
you are right there.
captcha's are often solved by humans in sweatshops the process aroud may be machine assisted. https://krebsonsecurity.com/2012/01/virtual-sweatshops-defeat-bot-or-not-tes...
i asked at raumzeitlabor where they got their cool time captcha from but got no reply yet.. lets see..
the Raumzeitlabor solution | Wenn es nachts Fünf nach halb Drei ist, | was steht dann auf einer Digitaluhr [HH:MM]? works because you need to understand German (not nice for Metalab) - OTOH it's easy meat if the sites that are using it are seen as lucrative targets. cu, Peter
Hi! "Unbreakable" captchas are broken by social engineering these days. There are a number of "free download" and porn sites out there that "proxy" these captches and let users solve them to get to the content. If you have enough solved captchas, you can try and use them as data set to teach/verify some automatic algorithm like a neural net. (In automatic mode, if it only works 1% of the time, it's enough...) LG Rene -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: metalab-bounces@lists.metalab.at [mailto:metalab-bounces@lists.metalab.at] Im Auftrag von overflo Gesendet: Montag, 14. Jänner 2013 17:45 An: Metalab General Discussion List Betreff: Re: [Metalab] Wiki Gardening As far as we (msch and I) can tell, there has already been a captcha in place since at least mid november. Doesn't seem to do much. Got ideas? hop captchas are automatically cracked these days.. i'd suggest to implement the raumzeitlabor time thing or something similar that needs a certain understanding of the language + human skills to figure it out.. i saw a kitten captcha once.. there were 20 kittens and one puppy.. you click the puppy you get in.. something like this.. :* -flo _______________________________________________ Metalab mailing list Metalab@lists.metalab.at https://lists.metalab.at/mailman/listinfo/metalab
On 14.01.2013 19:30, Sergii Kauk wrote:
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Thomas Steinbrenner <thomas@thomas-steinbrenner.net> wrote:
Tl;DR: Please come, it's important :/
I'm going too. Actually, I have this idea to go as far as to ditch MOS and use Mediawiki as website CMS. :)
now that the MOS project is finaly active again it would be a shame to just ditch it.. id rather ditch mediawiki for something with a bit more constraints so there is at least some kind of structure which should be easy to get at first glance but also prevent messy balls of static information like it is now.. i tried to do some usefull dynamic pages to give some structure (usergroup, workshop, project lists) but there is so much more to be done if we keep the wiki.. but i guess thats a discussion best had on the 21st -vier
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alexander sulz.at -
Christoph Schindler -
Michael Kafka -
overflo -
Peter J. Holzer -
Peter Kuhm -
Rene.Schickbauer＠magnapowertrain.com -
Sergii Kauk -
Thomas Steinbrenner